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本基地

http://www3.atwiki.jp/vip/pages/1.html

第二基地

http://www3.atwiki.jp/vip2/pages/1.html

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パス　vipvipvip

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http://wing.s60.xrea.com/cgi/yybbs/yybbs.cgi

ＶＩＰのみんなでサイトつくらねえ？

1 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)02:19:54ID:GNTR32d40
１、誰かが代表でホットメールのアドレス取る
２、その際、アドレスとパスワードは公表
３、そのメルアドで無料サイトに登録
４、もちろんサイト管理のパスワードは公表。

問題点；誰でも編集できると必ずサイト荒らす奴がでてくる
問題点超えてなんとかできないかな？
13 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)02:23:37ID:F9EnJ7Y30

1

バカか。アカウントを二人以上で管理するのが利用規約違反のところがほとんどだぞ

16 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)02:25:46ID:GNTR32d40

13　だって2ちゃんとかヤフーは一人で管理してるわけじゃないでしょ？

19 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)02:26:49ID:F9EnJ7Y30

16

管理、とアカウント所持は違うぞ

23 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)02:28:25ID:GNTR32d40

19じゃあ2ちゃんみたいにみんなで管理する方法はどんなのがあるの？

広告の件は違法くさいから諦めるわなら。

24 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)02:29:16ID:F9EnJ7Y30

23

教えたところでお前が理解できると思えない。
俺もあんまし理解できないし。

30 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)02:31:41ID:F9EnJ7Y30

27

いや、だから。
たとえば、そのサイトにAとBがいるとする。

Aが上げたindex.htmlをBが消す。Aが気づいて上げなおせば、Bがまた消す

こんな状態になり続けるかもしれないんだぞ？

35 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)02:35:12ID:Nog1ykdx0
htmlを各自が書いて代表1人に送信する手法はどうか・・・いやいいや
39 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)02:36:03ID:F9EnJ7Y30

33

まぁ、それはIPアドレスでどうにかなるっちゃなるけど、それを分かってどうするの？
はい、分かった。コイツ消してばっかじゃん。管理人からはずれてもらおー。
ってなるわけ？

1の意見と食い違ってるぞ？

41 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)02:36:56ID:MnBTM2lM0
wikiだな

50 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)02:40:14ID:GNTR32d40

39　うーんでも基本はサイトを「作ろう」ってことでやるわけで

消しすぎる奴には外れてもらっても仕方ないかと。
まぁそのうちある程度は派閥とかできちゃうかもしれないけどさ、それでも
面白いプランだとは思うんだよね。

51 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)
02:41:48 ID:F9EnJ7Y30

50

メールという手段がある。
もしくはアップローダつかってだ、zipで固めてもらってアップして。
んで、それをお前がある程度編集して鯖にうｐって事もできる。
67 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)03:01:20ID:wQc+Kxl+0
ﾊﾟｽとかはどこかのチャットとかで公表すればいんでね？

77 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)03:06:34ID:Yt72br5I0
今思ったんだが個人としての利用は認めるが他人へのアカウントの譲渡は認めてない
サーバーでも「法人」としては認めるわけだから俺ら法人団体になればいいんじゃね？

86 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)03:12:31ID:+/jCqjdNO
VIPの住人でコンテンツを作りたい奴を募って、それを一カ所に纏めればいいんじゃね？

ん～よくわからんな
登録集みたく個人個人でご勝手にってのじゃなくてさ、みんなからそのコンテンツについての情報とか集めたりして。

文章糞ですまそ

220 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)04:46:02ID:Yt72br5I0

208

うはｗｗｗｗｗ勘違いして新しいwiki作っちゃったｗｗｗｗ
http://www3.atwiki.jp/vip2/pages/1.html

229 ：１：2005/06/05(日)04:54:26ID:GNTR32d40

226トップページだけは管理者オンリーにした。それだけは認めてもらいたい。

なんのwikiかわかんないからｗｗｗ他のページ平気だからやってみそ

237 ：１：2005/06/05(日)05:05:26ID:GNTR32d40

233ごめん見つからなかった今ので我慢して
235　みんな　電車男は俺も肯定派ではないけど、2ちゃんが盛り上がる方向に

すすむなら管理側が妨害してくることもないだろうって意味。
客とろうとして来る奴には俺は管理側は妨害というかちゃんと防御してると
もうんだ。今までも。これからも。

236　寝る人はwikiをお気に入りにしといてね♪

255 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)05:17:15ID:TdyuABRL0

251

死ぬほど嫌がるだろうなｗ

249

わかんねーよ。そもそもテーマもうやむやで「何か面白いこと」
何か面白いことってのが「みんなが面白いこと」「２ちゃんが盛り上がること」
全部漠然としてる。
さらに「面白いことならみんな努力するだろ」ってレスあったが、（おまえのな）
ちがうよ、面白いことのために努力する奴なんてちょっとしかいない、
基本的には面白いことを眺めて面白がりたいやつだけ。

262 ：砂◆STARTWtSao：2005/06/05(日)05:23:55ID:EBIVENcJ0
やりたいこと&専ブラでも検索できるけど
VIPから定番スレを探して自動リンクする
ヘッドラインみたいなのあれば便利かな
274 ：砂◆STARTWtSao：2005/06/05(日)05:36:38ID:EBIVENcJ0

271

とにかく漠然と「サイトつくらねえ？」じゃなくて
「○○するサイトつくらねえ？」位でスレ立てないと
アイディアも他人任せじゃ、>>1の存在意義が全然ない、自分で考えて

300 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)05:49:28ID:ISDZ/06U0
俺はしょせんお遊びなんだけど・・・
やりたい人だけやればいいじゃん

VIPOO作ったからカテゴリ考えて
http://scenery.s26.xrea.com/

352 ：１：2005/06/05(日)06:17:33ID:GNTR32d40

335　レスアンカーつけてくれ、見過ごす。一銭もとらん！

俺が自費でサーバー代ださなきゃいけないとかにならない限り！
別のとこで頑張る

363 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)06:23:24ID:eK5T3ESa0

300に、企画とか過去ログとかをHTMLして送ってうｐしてもらったらいいんじゃないか？

そんでその記事毎にみんなでコメント付けれるようにして
コメントに投票ボタンみたいなのつくって良いものはTOPに紹介されて
評価の高いコメントが多い記事は殿堂入りって感じで残して
あとは2週間毎に全削除・・・

なんてことを考えながら書いてたけど、どうせテレパシーなんだしめんどくせと思ってきた

367 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)06:24:56ID:Nog1ykdx0
ＶＩＰＯＯに今あるシリーズスレのまとめサイト集める
　　　　　　　?
シリーズスレがＶＩＰに居座るのは人が多いから
　　　　　　　?
ＶＩＰＯＯに人がいっぱい来る
　　　　　　　?
シリーズスレは他板にいってもいいんじゃない？の流れ
　　　　　　　?
　　　　ＶＩＰ正常化

ねーよ

416 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)06:46:31ID:IWn2qw1F0

406
388(404)が言っているのは

メモ帳＞htmlタグでソース記述＞.html形式で保存
これをファイル化して送ってくれ　と言っているのだと思われ。

435 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)06:54:57ID:IWn2qw1F0

404

勇者じゃなくて、転がってる石になる予感。
とりあえずVIPOOに関しては某大手サイトY(あえて記述しない)に外見からして見えるため
独自のデザインに変えるのが得策ですかね。。
後々にいろいろ問い合わせが来ると面倒ですし
439 ：砂◆STARTWtSao：2005/06/05(日)06:57:02ID:EBIVENcJ0
アイディア投下&これはＶＩＰＯＯでもいいんだけど、
VIP新聞があったから、VIP雑誌作るとか
新聞と違うのは、スレ記事よりコンテンツ中心なとこ

VIPの創作系スレ（絵・小説・漫画・音楽・ゲーム&）から
既うｐでもいいから作品を募集して掲載する（勝手に転載はだめよ）

編集だけでなぜ成り立つのかというと、
VIPのスレは回転が異常に早いし
うｐろだもすぐ流れるので全部は見れないから

よりぬきでゆっくり見れるサイトが欲しいと思った
週刊少年VIPはあるけど、例えばGIF動画とか
ジャンルによって立ってもすぐ落ちるスレがあるから

447 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)07:02:16ID:IWn2qw1F0

437

権威だなんて・・ｗ謙虚にいかせてもらいます|ɠ)

439

wikiだけで運営できなくもないのですがね。。
やっぱりデメリットが多い。
ファイル送受信を簡単に出来るアップローダーなども欲しいところですが。。
セキュリティ面の問題もありますからね。
今は内容とかについて話し合いますか。

459 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)07:11:12ID:HCxQ0nVBO
http://mbsp.jp/1terakimosu/
作ったｗｗｗｗｗｗ

460 ：砂◆STARTWtSao：2005/06/05(日)07:11:46ID:EBIVENcJ0

447

wikiは向かないですね。茶風呂みたいな役職制はありかも
手間を考えると、自前のアップローダに
作品を挙げて貰うのが楽ですね。セキュリティというか
本当にその人が作ったのか確認する部分は難しいけども
通報されてからデリるしかなさそう

468 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)07:18:32ID:IWn2qw1F0

460

確かにwikiは共同製作の過程にはもってこいですが、
HPそのものとして動かすのはちょっとデメリットありすぎですからね。
やはりFTP接続は(_root権限なくてアカウント作れないでしょうから)無理でも
アップローダーは欲しいところですね。

486 ：砂◆STARTWtSao：2005/06/05(日)07:30:44 ID:EBIVENcJ0

468

そうですね。漫画とか長い物は、zipもおｋのロダで。
週刊VIPみたいにリンクする形でもいいのですが

あぷろだは最低限必要ですね
またゆくゆくは例えばあぷろだで投票もできて
上位が本館の方に掲載されるとか自動化もできそうだし

あとプロじゃないので、容量や負荷が分からないんですが
今までのまとめサイトを見ると無料鯖でも大丈夫そうかも

487 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)07:32:33 ID:eK5T3ESa0
無料のとこでも本気で転送量無制限のところとそうじゃないところがあった気がする
どっかに一覧あったと思うんだけどなぁ
どこだっけ

490 ：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日)07:35:23 ID:TdyuABRL0

487

？？？よくわらないけど・・・http://www.server-search.jp/search2.php?id=289

499 ：砂◆STARTWtSao：2005/06/05(日)07:42:43 ID:EBIVENcJ0

487>>490

どうも。絵を見せるタイプのサイトで
VIPPERが来たら後で負荷多くなりそう
週刊少年VIPみたいにリンク中心にする手はあるけど
一枚絵の場合はわざわざサイトを作る気が起きないだろうし

530 ：砂◆STARTWtSao：2005/06/05(日)07:58:30 ID:EBIVENcJ0

1

とりあえずアイディアは出したんで、自力でもがんばって
1は不安だけど、YAPOOの方は有望だと思う
スレがあったら後
560：以下、名無しにかわりましてVIPがお送りします：2005/06/05(日) 08:11:55 ID:HRl/lNER0
ざっと流し読みしただけだから流れ無視るけど
以前、ﾏｽﾀｰが複数人にIDとPASS発行して各自それぞれの独立したﾍﾟｰｼﾞを作れるって感じの携帯ｻｲﾄ作った
魔法のiﾗﾝﾄﾞみたいな感じで文字を送信すると更新できる

それの大規模版みたいにすれば？
WIKIと違うのはそのﾍﾟｰｼﾞはID与えられた人とﾏｽﾀｰしか更新できないって事
自動登録とかにすれば誰でもってのはｸﾘｱできるっしょ

因みに転送量は内容にもよるけど3000~4000/日ｱｸｾｽくらいでｴｸｽﾘｱだとﾒｰﾙが来る。

でまた来るよ。

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