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【更新履歴】最新3件まで
12/06/06 更新履歴の項目を追加
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*コンボ
※アップデートにより、サブ・特格にキャンセル補正がのらなくなった。
-VG時
|BGCOLOR(GOLD):|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(ORANGE):威力|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(GOLD):備考|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):BR始動|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|
|MIDDLE:BR≫BR≫BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:147|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:BR≫BR→特射|MIDDLE:CENTER:143|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:BR≫BR→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:159|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:BR→サブ|MIDDLE:CENTER:133|MIDDLE:非強制|
|MIDDLE:BR→サブ≫BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:161|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:BR→サブ≫サブ|MIDDLE:CENTER:163|MIDDLE:弾頭で強制ダウンとして計算上、おそらく受け身可|
|MIDDLE:BR→サブ→特射|MIDDLE:CENTER:157|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:BR→サブ→後格|MIDDLE:CENTER:161|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:BR→サブ→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:173|MIDDLE:弾頭で強制ダウンとして計算上|
|MIDDLE:BR→特射|MIDDLE:CENTER:112|MIDDLE:非強制|
|MIDDLE:BR→特射≫BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:147|MIDDLE:強制ダウン|
|MIDDLE:BR→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:155|MIDDLE:強制ダウン|
|MIDDLE:BR≫前N>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:172|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:BR≫横N>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:157|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:BR≫後|MIDDLE:CENTER:102|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:BR≫BD格|MIDDLE:CENTER:120|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):サブ始動|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|
|MIDDLE:サブ≫BR→BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:168|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:サブ≫サブ|MIDDLE:CENTER:154|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:サブ→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:161|MIDDLE:実測値|
|MIDDLE:サブ≫NN>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:207|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:サブ≫NNN|MIDDLE:CENTER:202|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:サブ≫NN後|MIDDLE:CENTER:205|MIDDLE:どなたか確認お願いします|
|MIDDLE:サブ≫横N|MIDDLE:CENTER:178|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:サブ≫BD格|MIDDLE:CENTER:133|MIDDLE:サブ補正率修正前|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):特射始動|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|
|MIDDLE:特射≫NN>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:170|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:特射≫前N>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:182|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:特射≫横N>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:167|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:特射≫BD格|MIDDLE:CENTER:134|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):特格始動|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|
|MIDDLE:特格≫BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:173|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:特格→特射≫BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:201|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:特格→特射≫特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:216|MIDDLE:射撃コンでは破格の威力|
|MIDDLE:特格≫特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:194|MIDDLE:2発目は弾頭で強制ダウン|
|MIDDLE:特格≫NN|MIDDLE:CENTER:187|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:特格≫横N|MIDDLE:CENTER:186|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:特格≫BD格|MIDDLE:CENTER:158|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(YELLOW):N格始動|BGCOLOR(YELLOW):|BGCOLOR(YELLOW):|
|MIDDLE:NN>NN>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:233|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:NNN>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:228|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:NNN>横N|MIDDLE:CENTER:240|MIDDLE:おそらくデスコン|
|MIDDLE:NNN|MIDDLE:CENTER:175|MIDDLE:ダウンまで行くのか検証待ち|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(PINK):前格始動|BGCOLOR(PINK):|BGCOLOR(PINK):|
|MIDDLE:前N>NN|MIDDLE:CENTER:188|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:前N>前N|MIDDLE:CENTER:187|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(RED):横格始動|BGCOLOR(RED):|BGCOLOR(RED):|
|MIDDLE:横N>BR→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:165|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:横(1hit)>BR→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:126|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:横N>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:148|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:横N>前N|MIDDLE:CENTER:162|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:横N>横N>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:166|MIDDLE:最後を特格でも同じダメージ|
|MIDDLE:BGCOLOR(MAGENTA):CENTER:BD格始動|BGCOLOR(MAGENTA):|BGCOLOR(MAGENTA):|
|MIDDLE:|MIDDLE:CENTER:???|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(VIOLET):覚醒時限定|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(VIOLET):A/B|BGCOLOR(VIOLET):|
|MIDDLE:BR≫BR→特射≫BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:168/|MIDDLE:計算上、以下A格の「計算上」は威力上昇率1.06倍と仮定|
|MIDDLE:BR→サブ≫横N|MIDDLE:CENTER:188/|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:BR≫特射≫BR≫BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:173/|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:BR→特格≫BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:196/|MIDDLE:特格のダウン値3と仮定して計算上|
|MIDDLE:BR→CS|MIDDLE:CENTER:???/149|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:BR≫覚醒技|MIDDLE:CENTER:???/164|MIDDLE:強制ダウンまで当てた場合|
|MIDDLE:特射≫BR≫BR≫BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:177/|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:特射≫BR≫BR→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:184/|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:サブ≫横N>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:217/???|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:サブ≫横N>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:229/???|MIDDLE:計算上|
-BF時
|BGCOLOR(GOLD):|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(ORANGE):威力|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(GOLD):備考|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):メイン始動|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|
|MIDDLE:BR→BR→BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:147|MIDDLE:連射扱い|
|MIDDLE:BR≫NN後|MIDDLE:CENTER:179|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:BR≫NN>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:186|MIDDLE:計算上、BR始動デスコン？|
|MIDDLE:BR→特射≫横N|MIDDLE:CENTER:170|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:BR≫BD格|MIDDLE:CENTER:135|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):特射始動|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|
|MIDDLE:特射≫NN後|MIDDLE:CENTER:186|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:特射≫NNN→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:223|MIDDLE:計算上、特射始動デスコン？|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(YELLOW):N格始動|BGCOLOR(YELLOW):|BGCOLOR(YELLOW):|
|MIDDLE:N>NNN→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:228|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:N≫BD格|MIDDLE:CENTER:156|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:N≫横N|MIDDLE:CENTER:156|MIDDLE:確認お願いします|
|MIDDLE:NN>NN>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:226|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:NN>NNN|MIDDLE:CENTER:237|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:NN>NN後|MIDDLE:CENTER:230|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:NN>NN>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:244|MIDDLE:コアファイターに移行|
|MIDDLE:NN>前N|MIDDLE:CENTER:196|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:NN>横N>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:229|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:NN≫BD格|MIDDLE:CENTER:172|MIDDLE:格闘修正前実測値|
|MIDDLE:NNN>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:207|MIDDLE:計算上。打ち上げ〆|
|MIDDLE:NNN>前N|MIDDLE:CENTER:237|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:NNN>横>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:244|MIDDLE:計算上。横格は早めの横虹で安定。非覚醒時デスコン？|
|MIDDLE:NNN>横N|MIDDLE:CENTER:240|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:NNN→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:228|MIDDLE:ブースト0で出せて高威力|
|MIDDLE:NNN>特射|MIDDLE:CENTER:207|MIDDLE:入力簡単おすすめの攻め継続。スタン長いのがポイント。つなぎは後ステがおすすめ|
|MIDDLE:NNN>特射>>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:239|MIDDLE:計算上。↑のコンボの締めを特格にするとダメが伸びる|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(PINK):前格始動|BGCOLOR(PINK):|BGCOLOR(PINK):|
|MIDDLE:前N>前N|MIDDLE:CENTER:208|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:前N>横N|MIDDLE:CENTER:211|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:前N>NNN|MIDDLE:CENTER:230|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:前N>NN後|MIDDLE:CENTER:233|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:前>NNN>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:221|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:前>横N>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:201|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:前≫BD格|MIDDLE:CENTER:151|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(RED):横格始動|BGCOLOR(RED):|BGCOLOR(RED):|
|MIDDLE:横>BR→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:176|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:横>NNN>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:226|MIDDLE:計算上、打ち上げ〆|
|MIDDLE:横>NNN→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:233|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:横>NN後|MIDDLE:CENTER:203|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:横>横N>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:206|MIDDLE:横虹安定|
|MIDDLE:横>横N>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:203|MIDDLE:計算上。前虹安定|
|MIDDLE:横>BD格|MIDDLE:CENTER:111|MIDDLE:格闘修正前実測値|
|MIDDLE:横N>BR→BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:202|MIDDLE:計算上。前虹(最速だと1発しか当たらない)|
|MIDDLE:横N>NN>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:235|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:横N>NNN|MIDDLE:CENTER:235|MIDDLE:計算上、基本コンボ|
|MIDDLE:横N>NN後|MIDDLE:CENTER:238|MIDDLE:基本コンボ|
|MIDDLE:横N>前N|MIDDLE:CENTER:213|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:横N>横N|MIDDLE:CENTER:216|MIDDLE:基本コンボ|
|MIDDLE:横N>BD格|MIDDLE:CENTER:134|MIDDLE:格闘修正前実測値|
|MIDDLE:BGCOLOR(MAGENTA):CENTER:BD格始動|BGCOLOR(MAGENTA):|BGCOLOR(MAGENTA):|
|MIDDLE:BD格≫BD格|MIDDLE:CENTER:141|MIDDLE:最後のBD格は最後までhitしない、格闘修正前実測値|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(VIOLET):覚醒時限定|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(VIOLET):A/B|BGCOLOR(VIOLET):|
|MIDDLE:BR→特射≫NN後|MIDDLE:CENTER:179/|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:BR→特射≫NN>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:181/|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:BR≫NNN→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:210/|MIDDLE:計算上、覚醒時BR始動デスコン？|
|MIDDLE:特射≫横N>横N|MIDDLE:CENTER:226/|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:特射≫NN>NN後|MIDDLE:CENTER:225/|MIDDLE:計算上、覚醒時のみ入るが意義は薄い|
|MIDDLE:特射≫NN>NN>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:227/|MIDDLE:計算上、覚醒時のみ入るが意義は薄い|
|MIDDLE:特射≫NNN→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:239/|MIDDLE:計算上、非覚醒でも入るが特射始動ではデスコン？|
|MIDDLE:NNN>NNN|MIDDLE:CENTER:251/|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:NN>NNN→特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:255/|MIDDLE:計算上、下よりはダメが落ちる|
|MIDDLE:NNN>NN>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:270/|MIDDLE:計算上、無条件に成立する覚醒コンボではデスコン？|
|MIDDLE:NNN>BR→BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:242/|MIDDLE:計算上、敵機を高高度に吹き飛ばせる|
|MIDDLE:NNN>NN後|MIDDLE:CENTER:265/|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:前>CS|MIDDLE:CENTER:162/|MIDDLE:計算上|
|MIDDLE:横>CS|MIDDLE:CENTER:167/|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:横N>横N>BR|MIDDLE:CENTER:247/|MIDDLE:とりあえずお手軽、計算上|
|MIDDLE:横N>横N>特格|MIDDLE:CENTER:256/|MIDDLE:計算上、覚醒時横始動デスコン？|
|MIDDLE:BD格≫覚醒技|MIDDLE:CENTER:/178|MIDDLE:格闘修正前実測値|
|MIDDLE:BR≫覚醒技|MIDDLE:CENTER:/164|MIDDLE:強制ダウンまで当てた場合|
-TF時
|BGCOLOR(GOLD):|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(ORANGE):威力|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(GOLD):備考|
|MIDDLE:|MIDDLE:CENTER:|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):メイン始動|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|
|MIDDLE:|MIDDLE:CENTER:|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):サブ始動|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|
|MIDDLE:|MIDDLE:CENTER:|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):特射始動|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|
|MIDDLE:|MIDDLE:CENTER:|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):特格始動|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|BGCOLOR(SKYBLUE):|
|MIDDLE:|MIDDLE:CENTER:|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(YELLOW):N格始動|BGCOLOR(YELLOW):|BGCOLOR(YELLOW):|
|MIDDLE:|MIDDLE:CENTER:|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(PINK):前格始動|BGCOLOR(PINK):|BGCOLOR(PINK):|
|MIDDLE:|MIDDLE:CENTER:|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(RED):横格始動|BGCOLOR(RED):|BGCOLOR(RED):|
|MIDDLE:|MIDDLE:CENTER:|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(PINK):後始動|BGCOLOR(PINK):|BGCOLOR(PINK):|
|MIDDLE:|MIDDLE:CENTER:|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:BGCOLOR(MAGENTA):CENTER:BD格始動|BGCOLOR(MAGENTA):|BGCOLOR(MAGENTA):|
|MIDDLE:|MIDDLE:CENTER:|MIDDLE:|
|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(VIOLET):覚醒時限定|MIDDLE:CENTER:BGCOLOR(VIOLET):A/B|BGCOLOR(VIOLET):|
|MIDDLE:|MIDDLE:CENTER:|MIDDLE:|
*キャンセルルート
**VG時
BR→サブ、特格、特射
サブ→サブ、特格、特射
特格→サブ、特射
**BF時
BR→サブ、特格、特射
NNN→特格
**TF時
BR→サブ、特格、特射
*戦術
メインのシールド判定があるのが、左側にシールドを構えている関係上、反時計回りの動きを相方としなくてはならなくなる
メイン→サブで自由落下できるので、早めに着地しブースト有利を作り出そう、
振り向きメイン→サブの自由落下は必ず使う場面が出てくるので、覚えておこう
特格のダメージが1000コストでは破格の124ダメをたたき出せるので無視されている場合は積極的にばら撒いていこう
ただしコアファイターになってしまうと長時間無防備になりステップもできないため、気を付けよう
着地時にメインを打つことで、着地を取られないので、着地を取られそうで相手の着地を取れそうなときはねらってみるといいだろう
*覚醒考察
基本Ｂ覚醒安定高火力のＣＳを狙う機会が増え機動力を上げ、
しっかりと着地を狙っていこう、
ＴＦでのＢ覚醒はアシストを使ってのズサキャンをからめた、
ＣＳは相手にしてみれば非常に避けにくいので、同コストや足回りの遅い機体には有効であろう
**A覚醒
CSの関係から非推奨か。
だが、CSの威力は182と高いので侮れない
**B覚醒
機動力が上がりCSを狙う機会が増えアシストのリロードも早くなるためB覚醒安定か。
*僚機考察
**コスト3000
**コスト2500
-ジ・O
自衛力とロック取りをしてくれるため
特格を当てやすい
-Xf
1落ちまでに後格などををからめて前に出て場を荒らし
Xfが進化状態になるまで頑張ろう
1落ち後は、Xfとラインを維持し極限進化まで導こう
**コスト2000
**コスト1000
*外部リンク
-[[したらば掲示板2 - ヴィクトリーガンダム part.1>http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/54170/1328926393/]]
-[[したらば掲示板2 - ヴィクトリーガンダム part.2>http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/54170/1347489832/]]
